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40 Series purchase…what am I looking out for?

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I might be in the market for a 40,43,45,47…

Don’t know much about them tbh…so other that that which applies to anything what am I looking out for? Which engines are good/bad? What years offer significant changes? Something I can live with as a daily? etc etc

Thanks
 
Think you are looking for a 4-speed with AC and Power steering, which I think would make it 1980's . Also disc brakes if possible!
They are loud for a daily drive, but Im sure that can be improved.
 
We have used our 40 as a DD for the past 15-16 years but be aware in a 40 you are not going to get anywhere quickly but you are going to get back.

I have attached the production information for the models you mention so you get a view of the differences - engine /body/etc - and the years. Parts are far more available than they were twenty odd years ago, when we bought ours, and there is a load more information available. Some models are rare and the UK officially imported 1500 FJ45 pick ups (for farmers) and 1 40
I am happy to point out the problem areas, etc, but am not back home until next Wednesday.

Regards,

Rodger
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What i should have explained is:
F - petrol B - diesel
some are 24v some are 12v - model dependent or market i.e. Australia is 12v only.

Regards,

Rodger
 
Thank you Roger. Yes I’m aware of slow…that’s fine for me, though maybe not for following traffic..lol

I am familiar with the engine options and codes but don't know too much about the engines regarding the best to look for.

Didn’t realise some were 24V
 
Hi Sarah, for a 40, the best years are post 81 when they get disc brakes on the front and power steering (i think), you'll want 5 speed (not availbe till late 83/84) thats an upgarde, there is a 3 wiper and AC version, 84 LX spec for max kudos. best engine would be 3B or 2H but both are old agricultural engines and will live forever!

i upgraded mine to PAS, 5 Speed and Disk brakes with a 3B engine, drives really nice albeit rattly and loud but i love it!

good luck with the hunt.
 
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If you live somewhere hilly I'd go for a TD or petrol. I love the simplicity of diesel engines so see if you can get a later 4cyl TD or one where someone has already put a TD 6 cylinder in. My 47 year old HJ45 H engine really struggles where I live so I'm going to do an engine swap as it's a nightmare in traffic on hills.

Other than that I think all models are great so whichever 40 34 or 45 you'll love.

David
 
I’m leaning towards a diesel for simple and maybe better mpg but hear you… not too much of an issue in Norfolk but noted for travelling
 
Nice and flat where you are, lovely part of the UK.

I also went for diesel as might need to run premium unless engine and fuel lines have been sorted for e10 petrol
 
I might be in the market for a 40,43,45,47…

Don’t know much about them tbh…so other that that which applies to anything what am I looking out for? Which engines are good/bad? What years offer significant changes? Something I can live with as a daily? etc etc

Thanks
Are you planning on importing? I'm in the same boat. Looking for an FJ. I've found some sources, in Oz feel free to PM me!
 
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You asked about the different engines, so, hopefully, the following will be of some use to you:
3B - 3431cc 4 cylinder diesel, is the stock diesel for the BJ40 is slow up hills so lots of gear changing but I found, and I live in the mountains, that if you change down before and at the start of a hill they will maintain a reasonable climb rate. This applies to the 2H engine as well. Regularly maintained they will go on forever.
2H - 3980cc 6 cylinder diesel, is stock in the HJ47 - if Australian then it is 12 volt. Same trick going up hills but I took the stock restricting exhaust manifold off mine and fitted headers so now the engine breathes and she climbs much better. I got an FJ60 set of headers , had new profiles cut to match the 2H manifold bolt pattern (they are the reversed on the FJ60), welded pipes and profiles and fitted. 2H is known as the 'million mile' engine but they are old style engineering. There are two types - the upgrade was in 1984 and things like the PAS pump are not interchangeable. I change the oil every 5000 kms and it uses nothing in between and I don't know the engine history because it came out of a HJ60.
With either engine don't expect to go anywhere quickly but both are super reliable. Also if you don't like being looked at or talking to strangers don't get a 40 series as people either remember them from when they were in Oz, Africa, the Far East or want to know what it is.
Both engines can be turbo'd and the factory 2HT, although getting rare to find now, is a great engine too.
All the belts are external to both engines as the 'timing belt' is via cogs.

The biggest problem is rust. When looking at one check the bottom of the front valances as mud gets between the support bar and the valance and rots it from the inside. Front wings where the support bar is welded to the wings as this traps mud (I have made mine detachable so I can separate to clean. Windscreen surround, bottoms of the doors as the drain holes get blocked. Driver's floor pan and rear floor , particularly if it's had a hard life in a wet climate. If hardtop, rain gutter which is bonded to the fibreglass roof. Rear doors and the underbody rear cross member which collects all the muck that the other panels have missed!
All the panels are available these days and if replacing a panel go for the best quality you can find. The stock metal is 14 or 16g depending so for instance I can stand on the bonnet without it denting.

In the tables I included you'll see reference to European models from 1979 onwards and they have an extra number in the VIN (an 8 or a 9) these came with disc brakes on the front and a few other parts but as Jon says the LX - 84/85 - is the best. The European models mostly went to Germany and France so are obviously LHD. Japan, Australia are RHD. Parts are hard to find for pre-1974 models and they have little in the way of driver comfort as they were workhorses.

Anything you're not sure about relating to 40s, just ask.

Regards,

Rodger
 
Thank you Roger. That’s brilliant, My knowledge about the early engines is limited and my book about them all is in the container with everything else!

I’m keeping a look out across Europe and maybe further afield so this helps a lot
 
I assume you’ve seen this 45 on eBay. Expensive but rather lovely.
 

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Hi Sarah, on the B series engines
there is the B series which is 3.0 litre and used in BJ40, there is a 2B 3.2 Litre which was used in certain overseas markets (?Asia) but the 3B is only in BJ42 which is the last edition 40 series (plus coasters and Dyna of certain vintages) all are sluggish but the 3B does spin up well in a small 40 series just fine, a 12HT can go into a 40 and I guess that would be the best option if funds permitted.
 
I might be in the market for a 40,43,45,47…

Don’t know much about them tbh…so other that that which applies to anything what am I looking out for? Which engines are good/bad? What years offer significant changes? Something I can live with as a daily? etc etc

Thanks
When I had my BJ40 it had drum brakes all round which were surprisingly good. It didn’t have power steering and it was therefore quite difficult in car parks. It was the one thing I would have changed.
Thankfully it also had a heater which was excellent. Some don’t if imported so just check that too.
The 3B engine had a small aftermarket turbo and coped pretty well in modern traffic.
It was great fun but even more agricultural than my 60. Better suspension would have helped but I never got around to that at the time.
 
If you haven’t already seen it, there is one in Wetherby for sale, it’s a pick up and a diesel. On car and classic.
 

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