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Came across this article which is interesting read given this thread.
http://www.confused.com/car-insuran...utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_source=Newsletter
http://www.confused.com/car-insuran...utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_source=Newsletter
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Ok I confess, I bought one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-...-/370821466829?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item5656ae8acd
oh and guess what these are shite too!
i should have known better, cheap Chinese junk, any camera that uses IR for night vision needs to be outside! otherwise the IR just reflects off the glass.
personally, I think the only way to go is to use a go pro camera.
besides the rubbish picture quality this one only loops the video for three minutes, so if you have an accident! it more likely to over record the data unless you catch it immediately.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-...-/370821466829?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item5656ae8acd
oh and guess what these are shite too!
i should have known better, cheap Chinese junk, any camera that uses IR for night vision needs to be outside! otherwise the IR just reflects off the glass.
personally, I think the only way to go is to use a go pro camera.
besides the rubbish picture quality this one only loops the video for three minutes, so if you have an accident! it more likely to over record the data unless you catch it immediately.
chadr
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A bit more pricey from around £100 onwards (but still less than a Go Pro) and less obtrusive too....
http://www.blackvue.eu/?gclid=CNjplun8k7sCFQn3wgodUUEA-g
Some of the units have built in GPS too.
http://www.blackvue.eu/?gclid=CNjplun8k7sCFQn3wgodUUEA-g
Some of the units have built in GPS too.
Chris Green90
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Hi Guys.
Alot of these cameras are more designed for internal recording hence the IR's. They were originally designed for the taxi market to keep an eye on passengers and TBF even the very cheep ones do this well due to the close proximity and uninterupted view. IR will struggle to penetrate most windscreen glass though. Plus the range on these things is at most 6 foot. Coupled with the fact that ambient light levels are quite high with your headlights and other vehicles and street lighting you actually don't want the thing to switch over to IR mode.
What you are looking for is a Low Lux camera with a responsive iris. otherwise oncoming traffic is just going to blind it.
I use one of these
With 2 of these
And 2 of these
and get pictures like these
Definately not a quick cheep option for making sure blame is apportioned quickly but excellent for videoing trips and adventures.
Alot of these cameras are more designed for internal recording hence the IR's. They were originally designed for the taxi market to keep an eye on passengers and TBF even the very cheep ones do this well due to the close proximity and uninterupted view. IR will struggle to penetrate most windscreen glass though. Plus the range on these things is at most 6 foot. Coupled with the fact that ambient light levels are quite high with your headlights and other vehicles and street lighting you actually don't want the thing to switch over to IR mode.
What you are looking for is a Low Lux camera with a responsive iris. otherwise oncoming traffic is just going to blind it.
I use one of these
With 2 of these
And 2 of these
and get pictures like these
Definately not a quick cheep option for making sure blame is apportioned quickly but excellent for videoing trips and adventures.
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These look very nice Chris. Do you have any more details on them?
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Chris Green90
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2 megapixle full Hd1080p progressive scan CMOS Sensor. B&W down to 0.2 lux Colour to 1 lux. Excellent little camera to be honest. If you are looking for a price Grant I can't really post it on an open forum. Our suppliers work hard to keep the prices withing the industry. If you want more info drop me a PM
wobbly
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Heard from my insurance company today.
Thus:
Their allegations are that we have attempted to undertake a cyclist turning right into Wood Street and in doing so have collided with their clients bicycle.
Having reviewed the footage you sent us it shows that this is not the case and that you have proceeded straight ahead after the cyclist had turned right and if anythng you have then moved further right rather than left and into their clients bicycle.
I have forwarded the footage and your statement and diagram to the third party solicitors holding their client liable for the incident.
I was quite pleased to read their response, any sympathy I had for the cyclist has evaporated since their opportunist claim !
Other side now have to change their story, 'cos that version won't run, video proves them 100% wrong, and I dont know how changing stories affects claims, but it cant strengthen it.......
I doubt they will withdraw their claim, their claim isnt about fair recompense for an unwarranted injury, its about solicitors being given something to get their claws into, so they wont just walk away - I now expect them to modify their story in some way, although whether their witness will support this will be interesting, I know he was def sympathetic to the cyclist, but that isnt the same as lying.
Pete.
Thus:
Their allegations are that we have attempted to undertake a cyclist turning right into Wood Street and in doing so have collided with their clients bicycle.
Having reviewed the footage you sent us it shows that this is not the case and that you have proceeded straight ahead after the cyclist had turned right and if anythng you have then moved further right rather than left and into their clients bicycle.
I have forwarded the footage and your statement and diagram to the third party solicitors holding their client liable for the incident.
I was quite pleased to read their response, any sympathy I had for the cyclist has evaporated since their opportunist claim !
Other side now have to change their story, 'cos that version won't run, video proves them 100% wrong, and I dont know how changing stories affects claims, but it cant strengthen it.......
I doubt they will withdraw their claim, their claim isnt about fair recompense for an unwarranted injury, its about solicitors being given something to get their claws into, so they wont just walk away - I now expect them to modify their story in some way, although whether their witness will support this will be interesting, I know he was def sympathetic to the cyclist, but that isnt the same as lying.
Pete.
Good news Pete, great that you had that vid cam running when you did.
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Don't crash the desk Grant
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LOL - having trouble getting it into first so we should be safe for the moment
Well well, so has mine and it's on my desk. Whoa, look out, bloody maniac just cut me up, never mind got him on camera.
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Here's the camera on my desk
Here's the camera in the car
And here's the first clip, at night and raining, but much better quality than the other rubbish one I had;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeMxQIs3HkE&feature=youtu.be
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Got her on camera. Hoovering under the influence.
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Towpack
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I bought one of the original £15 cheapies and find it OK in daylight but night use isn't that good unless it's under strong street lighting. I've used (borrowed) a Drift HD camera on the bike and it's as good as anything you'll get at twice it's price IMO. At least as good as a GoPro and easier to handle. Might even treat myself in the New Year sales!
Pretty good that Chas, impressed! 
Pretty good that Chas, impressed!
BTW Clive, that clip starts off in Morden High Street, where I live.
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