Didn't like the std Hilux bumper so I chopped it and made it different. But the cross over subject is the weld on recovery points. These are 5.3t ones because they'd run out of 3.1t versions. Yes you need to weld them on properly or they'll end up through someone's windscreen - or teeth. Triple pass weld into 6mm box. Have to say I think they're pretty neat. Spring loaded so they don't clank. Very tempted to weld some onto the 80 bumper. Got them from Safetyliftingear.com excellent service