On this day in history

[Shayne]

Not specifically but yeah , statues mean nothing instead tear down the school's , hospitals , churches , universities and everything else that wasn't paid for by exploitation of some kind or another . Give them what they want and demolish everything from the Pyramids to Nasa and then we will live in a nicey nicey world where nobody works and everything is free and shared equally .............. won't we ?

 

[goodoldboy]

Germany doesn't have statues of Nazis but they remember better than most the horror of fascism.The victors who write history often leave out the inconvenient truths.

 

[Chas]

Germany doesn't have statues of Nazis but they remember better than most the horror of fascism.The victors who write history often leave out the inconvenient truths.

 

[Chas]

On this day in 2012 BBC Ceefax, the world’s first teletext service, finishes broadcasting after 38 years.

I remember watching Ceefax and saw a news report about a British couple who were killed in a car crash in Switzerland. they were the parents of a friend of mine. They had an unusual surname, Seivi, it was later I heard it was the parents.

 

[goodoldboy]

an opinion from a historian
" The claim that removing the statue is “whitewashing” history is a pretence that these statues were somehow part of a nuanced conversation about Britain’s imperial past. But they weren’t, not least because we have statues to slave owners, but no statue to the victims of the slave trade or other victims of imperial violence"

 

[Shayne]

Apart from a few unknown soldier memorials and the like for people who gave their lives fighting for your right to have an opinion .

 

[goodoldboy]

On this day, 25 October 1983, the United States invaded the Caribbean island of Grenada. The stated justification of the invasion was to “protect” US citizens. However, the real reason was very different. In the wake of their defeat in Vietnam, the US was keen to demonstrate its military and political might, and as a senior US official told New York Times journalist Bernard Gwertzman, “What good are manoeuvres and shows of force, if you never use it?” Scores of people were killed in the invasion, with hundreds wounded, as the US government toppled the left-wing government which had been established after independence from Britain .

 

[Chas]

On this day, 25 October 1983, the United States invaded the Caribbean island of Grenada. The stated justification of the invasion was to “protect” US citizens. However, the real reason was very different. In the wake of their defeat in Vietnam, the US was keen to demonstrate its military and political might, and as a senior US official told New York Times journalist Bernard Gwertzman, “What good are manoeuvres and shows of force, if you never use it?” Scores of people were killed in the invasion, with hundreds wounded, as the US government toppled the left-wing government which had been established after independence from Britain .

'Merica doing what 'Merica is good at!

 

[goodoldboy]

On this day, 27 October 1970, the administration of president Richard Nixon passed the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act, as part of their "war on drugs". A Nixon adviser, John Ehrlichman, later admitted "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
50 years later it continues , filling the pockets of Mafias & criminalising people for their personal choices.

 

[Chas]

On this day in1962 The world breathes a collective sigh of relief as the Cuban missile crisis ends and the threat of imminent nuclear war fades, Mr Good 'ol boy Kennedy nearly had us in world war 3, luckily Khrushchev backed down.

 

[goodoldboy]

On this day in1962 The world breathes a collective sigh of relief as the Cuban missile crisis ends and the threat of imminent nuclear war fades, Mr Good 'ol boy Kennedy nearly had us in world war 3, luckily Khrushchev backed down.

it could have ended badly if second-in-command Vasili Arkhipov of the Soviet submarine B-59 hadn't refused to agree with his Captain's order to launch nuclear torpedos against US warships and setting off what might well have been a terminal superpower nuclear war. The US had been dropping depth charges near the submarine in an attempt to force it to surface, unaware it was carrying nuclear arms. The Soviet officers, who had lost radio contact with Moscow, concluded that World War III had begun, and two of the officers agreed to 'blast the warships out of the water'. Arkhipov refused to agree - unanimous consent of three officers was required.
Kennedys first response to the Soviet plans was “It’s just as if we suddenly began to put a major number of MRBMs [medium-range ballistic missiles] in Turkey. Now that’s be goddammned dangerous, I would think.” Kennedy’s national security adviser McGeorge Bundy responded, “Well, we did it, Mr. President.”

 

[goodoldboy]

On this day, 29 October 1918, during the night, sailors in the German navy refused an order to attack the British in the North Sea. The order was given five times, but each time the sailors resisted, despite 1,000 mutineers being arrested. Over the coming nights the rebellion spread, paralysing the imperial fleet, and led to a revolution and the end of World War I.

 

[goodoldboy]

On this day, 29 October 1940 in France, Iranian Muslim diplomat Abdol Hossein Sardari wrote to Vichy government officials to try to persuade them that Jews from Central Asia (Jugutis) were not technically Jewish under Nazi race laws. In 1943, as a result of his arguments, the Nazis eventually agreed and exempted them. Sardari began issuing Iranian passports to Jews, without the consent of his bosses, and helped up to 2000 escape the regime.

 

[Chas]

On this day in 1957 The government announces plans to introduce women into the House of Lords.

( As if the men weren't bad enough)

 

[goodoldboy]

On this day, 30 October 1961, the Ford car company attempted to introduce a reduction in daily tea breaks for their workers in Britain from 10 minutes to 5, which had been agreed by the trade unions. However, the workers had no intention of accepting the new arrangement, and began a self-organised campaign of on-the-job action against it. Instead of each worker collecting tea for their whole team, everyone queued up individually, and paid for their 3d cup of tea with £1 or 10 shilling notes so that change had to be counted out. This prolonged the tea breaks to 30 minutes or more. Later they switched tactics, simply just sitting down for 10 minutes to drink tea, ignoring management directives to the contrary. Despite management attempting to spread misinformation, claiming that other departments were only taking 5 minutes, the workers kept up the action until March the following year when management gave in and reverted to a 10-minute break. Through the 20th century there were a huge number of industrial disputes in the UK over the number and duration of tea breaks. For those who think this is a bit much some of my older Dutch and German mates remind me that beer was available in vending machines alongside the track in car factories until the mid 80s -the famous "brown sandwich"

 

[Chas]

On this day, 30 October 1961, the Ford car company attempted to introduce a reduction in daily tea breaks for their workers in Britain from 10 minutes to 5, which had been agreed by the trade unions. However, the workers had no intention of accepting the new arrangement, and began a self-organised campaign of on-the-job action against it. Instead of each worker collecting tea for their whole team, everyone queued up individually, and paid for their 3d cup of tea with £1 or 10 shilling notes so that change had to be counted out. This prolonged the tea breaks to 30 minutes or more. Later they switched tactics, simply just sitting down for 10 minutes to drink tea, ignoring management directives to the contrary. Despite management attempting to spread misinformation, claiming that other departments were only taking 5 minutes, the workers kept up the action until March the following year when management gave in and reverted to a 10-minute break. Through the 20th century there were a huge number of industrial disputes in the UK over the number and duration of tea breaks. For those who think this is a bit much some of my older Dutch and German mates remind me that beer was available in vending machines alongside the track in car factories until the mid 80s -the famous "brown sandwich"

I remember that well, I was working at Ford at Dagenham installing mains electric armoured cables for an electrical installation company at the time.

 

[Grimbo]

On this day, 30 October 1961, the Ford car company attempted to introduce a reduction in daily tea breaks for their workers in Britain from 10 minutes to 5, which had been agreed by the trade unions. However, the workers had no intention of accepting the new arrangement, and began a self-organised campaign of on-the-job action against it. Instead of each worker collecting tea for their whole team, everyone queued up individually, and paid for their 3d cup of tea with £1 or 10 shilling notes so that change had to be counted out. This prolonged the tea breaks to 30 minutes or more. Later they switched tactics, simply just sitting down for 10 minutes to drink tea, ignoring management directives to the contrary. Despite management attempting to spread misinformation, claiming that other departments were only taking 5 minutes, the workers kept up the action until March the following year when management gave in and reverted to a 10-minute break. Through the 20th century there were a huge number of industrial disputes in the UK over the number and duration of tea breaks. For those who think this is a bit much some of my older Dutch and German mates remind me that beer was available in vending machines alongside the track in car factories until the mid 80s -the famous "brown sandwich"

Even later than the mid 80's .......used to spend a lot of time in Belgium at an agricultural machinery factory in Zedelgem late 90's early 2000's working with prototype and field test dept and the works canteen served beer and steak every day on the menu ... and very good steaks they were .

 

[Chas]

On this day 1st November 1762. The birth of Perceval Spencer. The only Prime Minister to be assassinated
. . . . . . . . . . . SO FAR..

 

[Chas]

On this day in 1980 Former Hollywood actor Ronald Reagan wins the US presidential election by a huge majority, beating Jimmy Carter It's a pity we haven't got him instead of Trump,

 

[goodoldboy]

You have to remember Regans record in office.His embrace of the religious right led the Republican party down the path that ultimately led to Trump being elected.The invasion of Grenada and the illegal support for terrorists in Nicaragua also took place on his watch. The US also backed the invasion of Lebanon by Israeli which led to the massacre in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.The US assurances to the PLO to secure their withdrawal from Lebanon explicitly mentioned protecting the camps.Some of those those Palestinians who witnessed the massacres went on to form Hezbollah a fanatical outfit that had no intention of any compromise with Israel.Then we have the fact that the national debt tripled under Regan , his handling of the HIV/AIDS health crisis was criminal in its negligence (sound familiar ?) and the Iran contra affair.Not exactly the good old days.