Problem with brake upgrade

LC80tim Jun 13, 2018

  1. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    20180613_111945.jpg just upgraded the front discs and calipers to the larger ones as mine had the 286mm discs ( missed getting the lager ones by 2 on the chassis number lol ) anyway all fitted ok ( removed the dust shields ) came to put pads in and the pad material sits too far out by 5 or 6 mm, all parts fitted are new * calipers discs and pads *
    Is there a different pad for the 310mm disc to the 286mm disc ? As think I’ve been sent the wrong pads.
    I’ve had a nightmare with Milner’s having been sent all round new discs and pads, problem was one rear disc was ok and the other was right size ( 312mm ) but only 5 stud holes not 6, anyway quick contact and they sent replacement and guess what SAME problem so waiting for another replacement ( must be manufacturing fault they say as correct part numbers on box )
     
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  2. Chris

    Chris Super Moderator Supporter I am in europe

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    Hmm odd. I presume that the pads are short on the inner edge by the same amount. Sure the pads might be incorrect, but they seem to fit the caliper nicely. The disc is the disc, so that can't be wrong. However, my thoughts were that the bolting position on the old swivel might be different to the later ones. So, I looked up the part numbers.

    Could be completely wrong, but the early swivels were 43211-60060 and the later swivels were 43211-60110 without ABS and 43211-60120 with ABS so there is a difference. Don't know if this has a bearing but just something to throw into the pot.

    I've never done the disc upgrade myself and I've not heard of this happening. Maybe it has but people haven't noticed it.
     
  3. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    Yes pads are short on inside area, calipers and discs fit spot on and couldn't move caliper any closer

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  4. Chris

    Chris Super Moderator Supporter I am in europe

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    Well that is queer. Something deff not right.
     
  5. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    Yes have seen some pads for sale for 90 / 92 and others from 93 / 98 so was guessing there might be 2 types with the pin holes further out ?
     
  6. frank rabbets

    frank rabbets Well-Known Member

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    If Milners take them back, as they should, you might try Toyota. I bought genuine very cheap discs and pads a few years ago. It was like they were trying to get rid of them
     
  7. stumog

    stumog Well-Known Member I am in england

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    I think you have the wrong discs there. The pads are the same on both types.

    It looks like the caliper is to high which would suggest the disc is to small.

    I have done this mod and was very straight forward
     
  8. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    But there is no room for a bigger disc, look at photo 1, the disc is 310mm so the right size, unless the calipers are incorrect but there’s no room for the pins to be further in.
     
  9. Richard Turner

    Richard Turner Well-Known Member Supporter I am in uk

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    What happens if you try one of the old Calipers on the new disc? If the disc is the right diameter then it seems like the caliper is too small... just wondering if you have ended up with early Calipers.
     
  10. iwan_t24

    iwan_t24 Well-Known Member I am in wales

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    I was looking at this last night and I still think the same thought.


    The brake pads could be from a 4runner, kzj or such... which have the similar spacings...... You've managed (or been supplied) to fit the incorrect set of brake pads! Correct discs and calipers I thinks so..
     
  11. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    The pads came with the discs as a package from Milner’s, no box with pads just sellotaped together, the old Caliper won’t fit as disc too big
     
  12. chapel gate

    chapel gate Well-Known Member Supporter I am in england

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    Tbh tim if they can forget to put a hole in one of the discs it wouldnt fill me with confidence to the rest of the kit. I know what its like, you doubt yourself as everything is new and must be right, but that isnt always the case. I was also thinking wrong pads but i think a call to milners is in order.
     
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  13. frank rabbets

    frank rabbets Well-Known Member

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    Yes a quick call to Milners will make everything crystal clear. The person picking up the phone will know the problem inside out, be very apologetic and deliver all the right parts instantly.
     
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  14. Shayne

    Shayne Well-Known Member Guru

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    Personally i would send the whole lot back .
     
  15. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    Well got it all sorted after being ignored by milners, ordered new pads from rough trax and fitted perfect, got money for pads refunded by milners after emailing them again.

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    clivehorridge Well-Known Member Guru I am in romania

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  17. nick_the_fish

    nick_the_fish Well-Known Member I am in great_britain

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    Glad you got it all sorted Tim.

    How much of a difference did it make? Noticeable on hard braking? I'm sure if will help overheating on long descents. Might look at something like this myself at some point. Nice job
     
  18. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    Only just fitted them ( new pads ) not really used it since problems knowing brakes was not correct, did this because being a auto needed better brakes on decent ( even though I use gears to slow it ) have had bad brake fade with old brakes, will let pads bed in then give them a test, no abs so will just lock up I presume lol
     
  19. stumog

    stumog Well-Known Member I am in england

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    What was the difference in the pads please?

    I have fitted both 80 and 95 pads to each other before and they are identical to each other
     
  20. LC80tim

    LC80tim Member I am in england

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    Just ordered ones for the 80, the difference was how far the pad material was from the mounting holes, looks like they were for surf by part numbers
     
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