Turns out they’re 17mm and the top one was what in weightlifting circles would be called a ‘1 rep max’ to remove! Well it was for me using a 9” ratchet (breaker bar wouldn’t fit and don’t have suitable extensions!).
I was able to remove the starter, strip and clean the solenoid which has solved the intermittent starting issue that I’d been having. In fact it sounds like a much more powerful start all together. I believe Roughtrax supply a solenoid replacement kit but I simply cleaned the old one up with a flap wheel.
I used the following for guidance:
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