The best and safest operator's and off road drivers I know would never say they know it all and will listen to anyone giving advice....they may then ignore it or realise that person is a bluffer but are then polite enough just to walk away....... but you never stop learningthanks lads,I've been offroading for over 20 years and I agree experience is everything. I've always liked reading the 'Offroad driving manual' by Vince Cobley and was just fancying spending a day offroad at one of his training days.