@goodoldboy I appreciate you have acknowledged the links I have posted and have taken the time to read some of the content, it does seem to have at softened the tone of your latest post, it follows that this makes discussions much more pleasant to be involved in, and may engage others with different views?
The point I do not seem to be getting over which was in the links, is that once an immigrant couple start a family and to keep this discussion grounded, let us assume two children, throwing out figures (7)and based on my perception was wrong but they will become additonal resource load.
So, 25,000 couples, thats 50,000 immigrants come to the UK this year and are added to the NHS patient list, as of yet none of them have put a penny into the system, but will expect free health care, that has to be an additional load on resources, the 'load' being anything from a cold to tuboculosis or other infectious diseases which may have been brought with some of them, there is evidence to back that.
Within a year 75%, of the females fall pregnant or already are when they arrive, they are an addition to the NHS 'load' with pre natal checks ect. Nine months later they each give birth to one child, so that's an additional 18,750 children collectively and to prevent complicating the numbers I will not assume that any sets of twins or more have been born, in the same way I will discount any unfortunate miscarriages or stillborn numbers.
This 18,750 are additional load, not just on health services but now includes child benefit. A second child will almost certainly be born within the next two years, so we now have over 37,000 added to the NHS list and benefit numbers, the child benefits will of course continue to draw on resources until the children are of working age, health services for life, for which we are going to assume they are going to pay for.
I use the above based on just two children, research shows that the typical Bangladeshi family have a minimum of four children, double the children......double the load.
I am not against immigration, but it needs to be controlled, potential families moving to this country should be screened for health issues, and that they have a job to go to, and not a promise from buddy that disappears a week later after they arrive.
Apologies to anyone who feels they have been unfairly labelled a 'load'.
Regards
Dave