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I don't agree with what you have written Chris and feel a lot of what you obviously think, is wrong. But is there any point in arguing about it? Probably not. :think:

I feel I should go through what you've written and get my side across regarding each point, as otherwise it might look like your right and I'm wrong but I don't think its worth turning my thread into a slanging match. :|

I would like to thank you for all your help before and during the trip and of course for inviting me. Best of luck in the future. :thumbup:
 
Shit happens,Ben don't worry about it.cheers Pat
 
Simpson Desert Trip Part 1.

Day one of the trip.

We finished loading the trucks in the morning.

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We soon hit the road.

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And drove to FNB for a photo shoot.

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We then hit the road and spent the day winding our way through the beautiful Barossa valley which is a wine growing region and stopped at a few wineries on the way so some of the group could taste and buy some wine.

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We headed North towards the Flinders Ranges.

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A quick fuel stop.

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Then we were back on the road and heading for our camp for the night.

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We got to Wilpeana Pound, our camp site for the night in darkness and soon had tents up and dinner being cooked.

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Bangers and mash.

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After a chilly first night we awoke to a chilly morning.

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Ian had kindly said we could put our 2 blue boxes on the back of the black Mav as LJ was feeling quite unstable with them on the roof. (It wasnt known at the time, but now we know it was obviously because the rear shocks were blown.)

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We soon hit the road.

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The road soon turned to dirt.

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So I fitted a uni filter to my snorkel to protect my air filter.

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We stopped at a scenic look out.

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Beautiful views of this stunning part of the world.

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Ross, the photographer stopped to take pics of the convoy from time to time and got some really great shots.

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We saw our first Emu.

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We drove through a stunning gorge.

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One of Ross's stunning pics.

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More emu's.

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We left the dirt behind and hit the bitumen.

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We soon spotted a sign advertising the next roadhouses ferrel menu.

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So we stopped to check it out.

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A nice cold refreshing beer to wash the dirt/dust down!

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We soon hit the road again.

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We soon hit the dirt again.

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We soon arrived at the historical town of Beltana which at its peak would have been a thriving outback town.

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Soon a call came over the radio to say something was hanging down under Molly, the 80 series.

We turned around and drove back to find the rear panhard rod hanging down. :icon-surprised:

The bolt was missing so Nelson and I drove very slowly back around the town for the next 15minutes looking for the bolt but we were unable to find it. :doh:

No one was carrying spare bolts and only one other person had tools but they were very buried and the sockets/spanners didnt go big enough for the panhard rod bolts anyway.

Fortunately I was carrying spare bolts in LJ and a good selection of tools.

I provided the bolt and tools and Chris soon had the panhard rod bolted back on. :icon-biggrin:

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I asked Nelson to get under and check the rest of the panhard rod bolts were tight. He did and discovered everyone was loose and one of the nuts on the front one was on its final thread and about to fall off too. :wtf:

Had that front panhard rod come off when we were on the highway the 80 would probably have flipped and it could have been fatal. :thumbdown:

Whoever fitted the suspension lift clearly forgot to tighten them, we checked every other bolt underneath and every other one was tight so its very unlikely they were loose as a result of the small amount of corrugations we had driven. :think:

The bolt I provided was an M14 and it really needed an M16, but it would do until we could get some where and source another, with out it we would have been going no where! :think:

We hit the road again.

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We stopped for more fuel.

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We soon hit the dirt again and this time I insisted on airing down as driving through the gorge from Wilpeana Pound on road pressures was very bumpy in LJ and I knew it would ride better at lower pressures.

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Everyone else chose to do the same.

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A few hours later we arrived in the little outback town of Marree.

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Our camp site for the night was behind the pub.

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A few films have been filmed here and there were a few interesting vehicles dotted around the place.

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The latest Inbetweeners film was filmed here and in the film they shot the pub as being the Birdsville pub. The sign they used hangs proudly on the wall inside the pub, signed by the cast.

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We had a beautiful meal in the pub.

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I contacted trip leader Chris before the trip to inquire how many people would be on the trip, as it would be my birthday and I wanted to bring a cake with me and wanted to ensure I brought enough for everyone to have a piece.

Chris told me I couldnt bring my own cake and to leave it with him.

The guys at the Mauree pub made me an amazing cake, I can honestly say it was the best cake I've ever tasted, it was yummy with fresh cream and whole strawberries between sponge! :icon-biggrin:

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We found out that there was a wrecked 4wd up the road which we may be able to get a bolt from for the 80 series panhard rod. We spoke to the local cop who was in the pub playing pool and he offered to escort us so that locals wouldnt think we were stealing parts from the wrecked vehicle.

I got to ride up front in this beast of a 70! :dance:

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Sadly there wernt any the right size. :doh:

The next day....

I spotted this ute on a special frame that would be towed behind a camera truck and simulate it rolling for the recent film.

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We left Marree and continued our journey towards Birdsville.

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We spotted a large hill just off the track with lots of vehicle tracks going up it which looked interesting.

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Lined up at the bottom.

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Some of us drove up including LJ.

On the way up trip photographer Ross got an amazing shot of LJ lifting a wheel on the steep rocky climb.

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Trip leader Chris spotted his rear anti roll bar had come loose and was hanging down and needed some tools and washers. So I got the tools back out and found some washers and we soon had the second 80 of the day fixed.

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80 repaired and photographs taken we hit the dirt again.

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We pulled over for some road trains, attempting to pass them would have been suicidal!

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We stopped at a roadhouse for fuel. I had intended to buy ice creams and drinks but as they were incredibly rude I chose not to. :thumbdown:

They had some information boards outside about Kidman. I recently read a book about Kidman and so found this very interesting!

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And some interesting old vehicles.

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We kept going and soon arrived at our camp site for the night. This time a huge dry sandy creek bed.

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Nelson and I set the tent up and then went for a drive to find enough fire wood to keep the fire going all night.

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I built the fire.

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Ross got an amazing photograph showing LJ, the fire I built and millions of stars! :clap:

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Eric who provided all the amazing meat on the trip cooked us some sausages over the fire.

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The next day we hit the track again.

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We stopped for a break and a few photographs.

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We stopped so I could load LJ's roof up with firewood for the group.

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We arrived in Birdsville.

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We arranged the vehicles in front of the iconic pub for a pic.

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We drove to the camp site and got set up.

I found that when I drove up the dried creek bed to get all the firewood I'd picked up a thorn in one of my tyres and it was now leaking slowly. :doh:

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Fortunately I had a Piranha tyre plug kit with me so was quickly able to fix it.

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We went to the pub for dinner and ice cold beers.

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The next day was a scheduled day off where we were all free to do what we wanted.

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I was keen to go and drive Big Red, the biggest dune which is right on the edge of the Simpson desert and a 30 minute drive from town.

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I was joined by Ian in the black Mav.

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We arrived at the desert and aired down.

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And drove up onto Little Red.

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We drove over Little Red and soon arrived at a sign directing us to Big Red.

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I picked what I thought was an easy track up Big Red (it was actually a medium track) and LJ shot straight up. I found a few other trucks up there and radiod for Ian to bring the black Mav up.

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I decided to go down and try the harder track next, Ian got some pics of my aproach from the top.

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Frustratingly I ran out of momentum a few feet from the top, so I chose to winch the last bit.

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Ian was next in the black Mav.

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We returned to Birdsville and we filled LJ up with fuel and were just about to go and make some lunch when the call came over the radio to say some of our group were stuck in the desert and needed recovering.

So Nelson and I dropped everything to race back into the desert with Ian in the black Mav.

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The Mazda loan car met us and guided us off the beaten track and up onto a dune to where the guys had been doing a photo shoot of 4wd parts and Erics Patrol.

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We arrived to find one very bogged Patrol.

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Eric!

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Nelson hooked LJ's winch to a suitable recovery point.

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And the powerful Warn high mount soon had the Patrol pulled out.

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We returned to Birdsville and topped up our fuel tank with the 11 litres wed just used recovering Eric.

We grabbed a quick pic with Betsy in front of the pub.

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And grabbed some food from the bakery.

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The next day we were up bright and early.

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We loaded the trucks, fueled up and prepared to leave civilisation to cross the Simpson Desert.

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More soon guys..................
 

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Shit happens,Ben don't worry about it.cheers Pat

Thanks mate. :thumbup:

I dont want to fall out with anyone but sadly you cant please everyone all the time! :icon-biggrin:
 
Just about to start going through the 700+ pics for the second part of the trip report. :icon-wink:
 
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Hi Ben you look like you had a lot of fun love the pics thants and keep it up Tony.
 
Simpson Desert Trip Part 2, The Final Instalment.

So we left Birdsville and its iconic pub behind and headed for the desert.

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We stopped to air down.

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Everyone got up and over Little Red without issue.

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We headed for Big Red next.

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Everyone chose to take the easy track to start with, but after watching a few people struggle and hearing over the radio what was happening we shot up the medium track and positioned LJ ready to help the guys up the last bit with the winch.

First was Eric.

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Followed by Tony in Betsy.

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Mean while Eric was having a few issues with his engine. He thought a turbo pipe had come off but we had a good look and we couldnt see anything. He managed to plug his scan tool in and remove a fault code and that seemed to fix it.

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The old girl needed a bit of a hand getting to the top so Tony hooked my winch hook on to a bridle to spread the load over the 2 chassis rails.

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And up she came.

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Brenton powered his smart black Hi-lux up next and managed to get all the way up without needing winching.

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We moved all the trucks and arranged them on the top of Big Red for some pics.

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We then drove back down so we could have another attempt at the hard track.

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The hardest bit is the top section where the sand is softer and where most people run out of momentum by.

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A combination of good driving skills, plenty of right foot and all terrain tyres saw Adam power the Mazda to the top and successfully get up and over.

As we would see over the following week all terrain's were king in this terrain, especially when combined with a petrol engine and auto box. This combo would see Doug in the white 80 making it up dunes no one else could!

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I had about 5 attempts before I finally got LJ up and over on the hard track! :icon-twisted:

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We finished playing on Big Red and headed deeper into the desert.

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Soon a call came over the radio to say Betsy needed a hand so we turned around and headed back to winch the trusty classic up.

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With Betsy over we carried on.

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Soon Betsy needed another winch to get up another particularly steep dune.

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The dunes got a little firmer after these first few and with even lower tyre pressures Betsy wouldnt need assistance over the next few hundred dunes.

We carried on.

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We would see very little wildlife in the baron desert so seeing a bird was significant.

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I was pleasantly surprised to see lots of greenery between some of the dunes, I'd kind of presumed there wouldnt be anything but sand!

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A few hours in we stopped to make camp.

And started with a few ice cold beers under an awning to shade us from the searing desert sun.

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Cooked dinner.

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Bangers and mash again.

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Tent up.

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Then it was time for a few beers round the fire.

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Not a bad view to wake up to from inside the tent.

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Breakfast done we packed up and moved out.

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The pie oven worked fantastically well and turned our frozen meat pies into beautifully hot cooked pies in only 1.5 hours of driving.

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We stopped for a spot of lunch.

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It got to mid afternoon and LJ became very bouncy on the rear end and it was obvious the rear shocks had faded. We pulled over and they were red hot! :doh:

We had a debate about what to do which unfortunately got quite heated as we stood around in the middle of the desert with the burning sun beating down on us.

I was annoyed that the almost brand new shocks had failed and at this point no one realised that it was because there was no bump stops fitted.

As I dont give up easily when I've decided to do something I was keen to go back to Birdsville and get new shocks. So it was decided that Nelson and I in LJ would head back with Ian and Ed in the black Mav.

The others would continue on and make camp and we would catch them up the next day.

At this point it looked like I was going to cost the group a day of travel as they would be waiting for us to get back, but as your about to see and read it wasnt only LJ who needed mechanical work in Birdsville and while we were gone the poorly fitted airbags on the rear of Betsy failed, so the rest of the group spent the next day removing the airbags, straightening the universal mounts they were fitted to and welding in some pieces of metal to straighten them before bolting it all back on.

Some top work was done by the guys including some bush welding using 2 car batteries. Its unlikely Betsy would have coped well without this work being done, so in hindsight the group would have had to stop for a day anyway.

Anyway.........................

back to the trip report...............................

So LJ and the Mav headed back to Birdsville.

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Coming into Birdsville.

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Back at the camp site, tent up and showered.

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I was up at first light and removed the blown shocks from LJ.

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The black Mav had a nicely rebuilt V8 engine but a whole host of other issues. :doh:

One issue they guys were keen to try and fix was the loss of power they had when switching from the aux to the main fuel tank.

They hoped this would just be a blocked filter, but as they wernt carrying spare filters we removed the panel in front of the filter so that the mechanics could have a look and hopefully supply us with some replacement filters.

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I got my socket set out of LJ and we soon had the panel wipped off.

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We headed to the roadhouse and waited for the mechanic to arrive.

If you need recovering from the desert you need deep pockets for this beast to even leave Birdsville to come and get you.

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Sign outside the mechanics.

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The mechanic arrived and I explained the issue we had and he had a look at what shocks he had in stock.

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I bolted the new shocks on.

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The mechanic pointed out that I needed to fit some bump stops or it would just blow the new shocks.

As stated earlier I had measured before I ordered the new EFS shocks and I obviously cocked up as I thought the springs would become coil bound before the shocks got any where near the point of bottoming out. :oops:

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His son turned up who runs a fabrication business in the town and he soon knocked up some extended bump stops and got them bolted onto LJ.

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Top work and pretty reasonably priced, especially considering our location! :clap:

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We had been in touch with the rest of the group who had been working on Betsy sorting the airbag issue out and they requested some pieces of metal, so the mechanic told us to check out the public tip.

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We found some suitable metal and I found this old Suzuki LJ 4x4 interesting.

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We picked up a load of bolts and some other bits and pieces the other guys needed and prepared to leave town and head back to rejoin them.

But not before wed had lunch and a cold drink in the pub.

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I spotted another shorty!

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We headed back to the desert.

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We stopped to air down.

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While airing down Ed spotted that both engine mounts on the Mav were badly cracked where they had been welded when the engine conversion was done. :doh:

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It wouldnt have survived the desert so we were forced back to Birdsville to get it fixed.

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The mechanics dropped everything and got the Mav on the hoist.

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While we played with their cute puppy.

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They unbolted the mounts, welded them back up and re-fitted them.

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They said it was only a matter of time until they failed again due to the fact the mounts are misaligned with the engine mounts and chassis mounts, but they hoped it would last the rest of the trip.

We hit the road again.

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The drive that afternoon/evening was one of the best bits of the whole trip for us as we got to travel at a great pace up and over all the dunes! :dance:

It wouldnt have been possible to do this with the full convoy, but with 2 vehicles it worked really well and we got a lot of ground covered.

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We were driving into the sunset and at one point the sun was constantly appearing and disappearing as we crested the dunes and then dropped back down between them.

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After a few hours we saw the sign for Mount Dare and a quick satphone call to the others confirmed we were close to where they were camped.

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We reached the others and had dinner around the fire with them.

The next morning we packed up and hit the tracks again.

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We drove the short distance to Poeppel corner and we had a quick stop and a look around.

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We carried on and crossed a few clay pans and heaps more sand dunes.

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We discovered that the oven works well for making toast!

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We were heading to the Lone Gum Tree our camp for the night.

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We started cooking dinner and I told Nelson to watch the potatoes that were boiling while I nipped 50 meters away to put some rubbish on the fire.

I got to the fire and Nelson shouted me.

I looked up and...................

BOOM!!! :banana-explosion:

There was a very loud explosion and Nelson flew back off his feet and ran back away from LJ. :wtf:

Seeing flames shooting out the back of LJ I sprinted over and turned the gas off.

It turned out the hose thatI had used to extend the hose on the gas stove wasnt gas hose and it had expanded and then burst and caught fire. :thumbdown:

It could have been very bad but luckily no one was hurt and LJ didnt go up in flames.

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One shaken up Nelson.

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Steak for dinner.

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We ate dinner and then spent the rest of night helping Ian and Ed with the black Mav. They hadnt managed to get a fuel filter and with fuel in the aux tank running low they needed to get all of the fuel out of main and into the aux tank as it wouldnt run properly when they switched to main.

Ed had managed to siphon some out but they were struggling to siphon the rest out.

Fortunately I was carrying loads of spare fuel hose and tools in LJ. I removed a cover panel to get to the electric fuel pump mounted on the chassis and connected my hose from the output into the filler neck on the main tank.

Chris then ran a wire from the battery to the pump and we pumped all the fuel out.

Eventually we made it back to the fire but we didnt stay long as it was now late and we were very tired.

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Sunrise the next day.

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Back on the tracks.

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I positioned LJ ready for another winching operation.

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We stopped for the night and made camp. The flies were once again horrendous.

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We cooked dinner.

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Some of the guys used a quad-copter to get some aerial photographs and video of our camp.

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As we all cooked our dinner and milled around camp with the fire going Ian spotted a yellow snake which went straight through the middle of camp! :wtf:

They guys videoed it and showed the video to a ranger who confirmed it was the most venomous snake in the world, the inland taipan. If any of us had stood on it, which could easily have happened as it was dark................and got bitten wed be dead within 2 minutes! :shock:

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The next morning I was awake very early and for the first time in a few weeks found the sky full of clouds!

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I went for a walk as I wanted to climb a dune and watch the sun rise.

On the way I saw lots of snake tracks crossing the track, there must have been heaps going through our camp overnight! As well as a few lizard tracks.

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I remembered the Dramatic feature on my camera, so there will be a few from now on.

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The flies were still terrible!

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We put more fuel in LJ.

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And hit the tracks.

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More aerial filming.

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The oven was still working well at making toast while we drove.

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We passed a ranger who checked all our desert passes and sand flags.

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Chris had overheating problems so we all pulled over while he tried to get his electric fans working.

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We stopped briefly at a saltwater pool.

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We arrived at dalhousie springs.

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The water was a beautiful temp! It was like a hot bath!

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We needed to get fuel so we shot off up to Mount Dare, just behind Chris in his 80 and the Mazda.

The road there was the worst I've ever driven! :thumbdown:

Terrible corrugations and rocks in the road as big as footballs! :shock:

LJ survived OK as did the Mazda but Chris's 80 had taken a beating.

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The radius arm mount on one side of the axle had torn off and was leaking oil everywhere!

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We filled up and had a cold beer and then left with the Mazda to rejoin the others. Chris would camp at Mt Dare and hopefully get the axle welded the next day.

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On the way back to Dalhousie to meet the others I could hear them on the radio and asked why they were in their vehicles......................

It turned out they had tents up and were half way through cooking dinner when the mozzies descended in biblical proportions and chased them out of camp! :shock:

So we met them a few k's up the road at another camp and camped there instead.

Camp the next morning.

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We had now crossed the Simpson Desert and had been on the road for 2 weeks and decided to leave.

This wasnt a decision we took lightly and nor was it planned from the start. I did contact Chris a few months before the trip to ask if we could leave early, but as he had said no we had cancelled going to the concert we had intended to go to back in Melbourne.

But we knew if we left early now, it would of course look like we had planned it from the start.

This made leaving early even harder as we knew it was going to piss people off, but we decided it would be better to leave early than stay and be unhappy and we dont regret that decision.

It had been a great trip but we had simply had enough and wanted to go home.

So off we went.......................................

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We didnt listen to the satnav and managed to knock a few hours off the time, we got home in 27 hours.

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It felt great to finally be back on bitumen!

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While inflating the tyres I crawled underneath and spotted that the rear prop shaft had come loose on the corrugations and needed the bolts tightening.

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It felt great to be home!

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Lots of dust inside everything!

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And that was our Simpson Trip guys. :thumbup:
 

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Glad to see you made it back in one piece?

The impression I get is that the lighter weight vehicles actually did better than the heavy 80 series vehicles, your 70 series & the Mazda seemed to weather the rough country fairly well?
 
Thanks guys. :thumbup:

I think all the trucks did well TBH Rob, but the 80's in particular were carrying a lot of weight and obviously weight is a disadvantage, especially in power sucking soft sand. :think:

The almost stock standard Mazda did exceptionally well. :clap:

I'm really pleased with how LJ did! :dance:

Apart from the rear spring and shock issue at the start of the trip which was down to the fact it was all untested, LJ didnt miss a beat! :icon-biggrin:

All of the custom suspension components I made for the front took a flogging and all held up beautifully! :icon-twisted:

Heres a couple of videos I forgot to include in the trip report. :icon-cool:



 
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bit of a half crown, thruppeny bit moment with the cooker though!
 
Great trip report Ben, thanks for posting. Travelling in a group, and particularly one that size, does indeed present its own challenges and frustrations.

Still, it looks like you guys all had a ball.
 
Great pics and trip report. The blog etc has also been good to follow.

It's a shame about issues within the group (been there before )
The terrain looks very punishing and with the environment easy to see how people can become frustrated.
 
Thanks guys. :thumbup:

Yeah Steve the gas stove exploding wasnt a great moment! :doh:

I never realised you have to use gas hose, I always thought it was just normal rubber fuel hose! :oops:
 
Ben, one more full day and it's finished?

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Ben, always followed your threads with interest and jealousy, but this trip/report does it for me! bloody fantastic. easily beats some of the so called
trips/documentaries on tv. You should be on the top gear team, but without 1/2 certain others on there, doing their trips! Thanks.

John
 
This tops the lot so far Ben. Really sad about the upset, but that has to be left behind in the sand.

Amazing trip, thanks for the times pent on posting and the write up :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :clap:
 
Thanks guys. :thumbup:

Yeah Steve the gas stove exploding wasnt a great moment! :doh:

I never realised you have to use gas hose, I always thought it was just normal rubber fuel hose! :oops:

Over here in Froggy land, there is very little in the way of mains gas supply in the countryside. As the electric supply can be 'iffy' a lot of people use gas bottles inside and outside for cookers, & bbq's. The pipes are always date marked, that way you know when they should be changed ......if you can see them!
 
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