On this day in history

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On this day in 2013 former UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher died. Street parties spontaneously broke out across the country. Pictured: Thatcher being welcomed to hell by one of her good friends and supporters, serial paedophile Jimmy Savile


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On this day in 2013 former UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher died. Street parties spontaneously broke out across the country. Pictured: Thatcher being welcomed to hell by one of her good friends and supporters, serial paedophile Jimmy Savile


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I was going to post this but I was afraid of rousing the trolls, too late it seems.
 
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On this day in 1919 the Jallianwala Bagh massacre took place in Amritsar, India . Acting Brigadier-General Reginald Dyer ordered troops to open fire on an unarmed crowd of civilians who were celebrating a religious festival.Estimates of the dead vary between 3759& 1000 with the wounded between 1200 & 1500.
Although criticized by a parliamentary commission Dyer was considered a hero by many who directly benefited from the British Raj .
Britain never formally apologised for the massacre but expressed "regret" in 2019.
 

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I'm never sure what a Country apologising for an act carried out a hundred years ago or more gains...or what it achieves ...

No person who lost a relative or was involved in any way is still alive...
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Learn from the past and understand why decisions were made and taken ....... but the snowflake current media hype led hysteria demanding apologies from everyone who possibly wronged someone or carried out an act that's by it's nature is judged with hindsight and a full view of all the facts and not from the view point of the person or persons who made that decision and with the info they had to go on seems to be unproductive and pointless .... and rather selective .....

Crap has happened since the first Cave Man clubbed another one to steal his food or woman and will continue to happen around the world until the last human catches their last breath.... humans will act out of belief they are doing the right thing or because they are under pressure or scared.... most of the worst genocides in history have been carried out in the name of tribal or religious beliefs.... and few are related to colour of skin .

Human kind is without doubt the cruellest species that will ever inhabit this planet.....
 
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goodoldboy

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I'm never sure what a Country apologising for an act carried out a hundred years ago or more gains...or what it achieves ...

No person who lost a relative or was involved in any way is still alive...
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Learn from the past and understand why decisions were made and taken ....... but the snowflake current media hype led hysteria demanding apologies from everyone who possibly wronged someone or carried out an act that's by it's nature is judged with hindsight and a full view of all the facts and not from the view point of the person or persons who made that decision and with the info they had to go on seems to be unproductive and pointless .... and rather selective .....

Crap has happened since the first Cave Man clubbed another one to steal his food or woman and will continue to happen around the world until the last human catches their last breath.... humans will act out of belief they are doing the right thing or because they are under pressure or scared.... most of the worst genocides in history have been carried out in the name of tribal or religious beliefs.... and few are related to colour of skin .

Human kind is without doubt the cruellest species that will ever inhabit this planet.....
Could we keep this thread more informational and less political. This was supposed to be a thread of information and not a debating forum. There are other methods for that, make a separate thread if you want to make a political point.

So calling Nelson Mándela a former terrorist or claiming that Churchill was the greatest leader & we'd all be speaking Deutsche without him is'nt political or invites debate .Glad we've cleared that up .
Apologising for an atrocity that happened over 100 years ago makes the position of the government of the day unequivocal , that what happened was simply wrong and no justification is valid.Why do you find apologizing for slaughtering civilians so objectionable ? Imagine if such a crime against humanity took place today in Iran , Cuba or Venezuela ? even with a fraction of the victims the non snowflake press would be calling for action before you could s say Rule Britania . The real problem here is the myth of the Empire & the verifiable history that records the actions of an invading and colonising power that subjugated an entire subcontinent for the gain of a few already wealthy oligarchs.

Learn from the past and understand why decisions were made and taken
in the context of this massacre it was to supress the growing forces of Indian liberation that threatened the vastly profitable colonial project in India and elsewhere.
The "shit happened , we're all savages " narrative hardly fits in with the rationale of colonialization , that "we" are sophisticated , advanced and god fearing & the others are savages that need our help and guidance.
 
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FFS American Indians , Aborigines and the Pharoes were trading slaves and slaughtering each other long before anyone this side of the world knew there was something beyond the horizon . I guess you think the Spanish empire was all about sharing flowers and cupcakes and the Great Wall of China was built as a tourist attraction .

Can't apologize to dead people about what dead people did because they are dead.
 
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" Can't apologize to dead people about what dead people did because they are dead. "

My point in much fewer and less controversial words....

No more comment from me unless I find a good funny fact that happened on a given day in history ..... crap happens every day let's find the stuff that was weird or funny cause god knows we all need a smile ....
 
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On this day,in 1816, a slave uprising known as Bussa’s rebellion, named after its leader, broke out on Easter Sunday night in Barbados. It was to be the island's largest rebellion of enslaved Africans.
Enslaved people took advantage of the temporary freedom from work and the cover of permitted gathering for Easter festivities to organise themselves. They chose a leader on each sugarcane plantation, and were assisted by three free Black men who travelled around meeting with rebels.
The revolt began with the burning of cane fields in St Philip, and soon around 400 men and women working on over 70 other estates had joined in.
British colonial authorities declared martial law the following day, and soon suppressed the uprising. While only two whites were reported killed, 120 enslaved people were killed during the repression, with 144 executed and 132 deported in the aftermath.
Bussa is today remembered in Barbados as a national hero.
 
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