Vincent Cam
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Hi, my name is Vince and I am new to this site.
Why did I join?
Well because I have read so much s**t posted by guys who really don't know what they are talking about that I felt compelled to join and make a contribution with some basis in fact.
Over the next few days I will post some topics that will rattle some of the Stalwart Toyota Land Cruisers owners of newer models. I will tell you things that your friendly Toyota dealer wont tell you, I will surprise some Land Cruiser owners who have a mechanical background and I will receive a whole lot of flack from pompous as*****s who just like to seem important to their on-line peers. I will also receive flak from from manufacturers and sellers disguising themselves as your peer, 'off-roader'.. Let me say to them in advance, what Melania Trump told the American Press just recently....... I don't care.
First cab of the rank....
AdBlue in your diesel tank..... Not a huge mistake for someone to make especially when the AdBlue bowser is almost identical to the diesel bowser except fot the the size of the delivery hose. Its what you do about it thats important. Like do not start the vehicle and take it to your nearest Toyota Service Centre.
Real life event..... Toyota Land Cruiser LC200 VX. Oddometer reading, 20,000klms. Owner on a caravan holiday.
Serviced in Mildura (Victoria Australia) for 20,000 service. Inadvertently, put 11 lts AddBlue in diesel tank before realising what he did. Had the vehicle transported to the Bendigo Toyota dealership for them to drain the fuel tank. No further mech work was necessary as the engine had not been started.
What the Toyota trained mechanic did..
first, he connected a small suction pump hose attached to a waste tank to the diesel delivery hose adjacent the fuel pump. At this stage the suction pump had been sucking all morning. The mechanic first commenced work at 8.00am. About lunch time, when approached by the owner and asked why he, the mech, did not remove the spare wheel and drain the tank from the tank bung, the mech replied you should not be around here please go back to the admin area. We know what we are doing and you need not be concerned.
If you don't already know what AdBlue is then a very brief explanation is, courtesy if the internet. ...
AdBlue converts harmful NOx from your diesel vehicle exhaust into harmless nitrogen and steam, therefore considerably reducing the emissions of nitrogen oxides (NOx) that are a major source of atmospheric pollution.
If you don't already know the purpose of AdBlue is....
"SCR" is the name of a post-combustion technology treatment for diesel vehicles, which allows them to reduce their emissions of NOx (nitrogen oxides). SCR stands for Selective Catalytic Reduction. This technology requires the use of a reagent called AdBlue.
Most importantly, AdBlue does not blend with diesel as it is like water. Infact the largest component of AdBlue is water which is mixed with Urea. Neither will mix with diesel in the tank and due to the specific gravity of Adblue it will lie at the bottom of the diesel fuel tank while the diesel floats on top of it.
Now back to the Bendigo Toyota Dealership method of dealing with the problem. Remember, this guy is Toyota trained mechanic as the owner was constantly advised. The fuel pick up in the tank is located up from the bottom of the tank about 20mm or so. Didn't the mech know this. Didn't he know that by sucking the fuel out in the manner that was used would result in leaving a 20mm layer of AdBlue in the tank. When the owner looked up the AdBble on the internet on his phone he alerted the admin people at the service desk and was again told not to worry the mechanics were not internet trained they were Toyota trained.
About 5.00 pm the owner was given his account which was paid and he received the keys to his vehicle. He was told that he would need to drive directly accross the road from the dealership service centre to the BP fuel station and fill up with diesel as they had only put enough in to start and service the it. He was also advised to ignore the dash light showing that there was water in the fuel and to idnore the loud busser noise associated with the dash light. The owner objected but was told all will be ok and the dash light would extinguish over the next 40 to 50 klms.
The owner filled up the vehicle with diesel paid for it and drove approximately 50 metres up the road when the Toyota gave a shudder of death and stalled in the middle of Bendigo prime-time traffic.
Toyota were called and luckily the service manager had not left for the day as it was after knock of time. The service manager arranged for the same mechanic to attend at the vehicle to get the owner on his way. When the mech arrived he pumped the fuel at fuel filter and attempted to start the Land Cruiser. It wouldnt start so he unhooked a hose and pumped the filter and what seemed like water gushed out of the hose. Uhmm, water the mech muttered. The mech arranged for the car to be transported to the service centre and the owner was informed by the service manager after deliberation with the mech that I would need to leave the vehicle at the service centre all week en as they did not work on Saturdays, and it was late Friday evening.
So now the Land Cruiser sat out in the open in the dealership yard all weekend with highly corrosive Urea (AdBlue) in the fuel system. It does not take a very talented person to realise that the whole of the fuel system was going to have to be repalced including the fuel tank, fuel lines, filters and the fuel pump including all associated fittigs.
What did Bendigo Toyota do, well they kindly supplied a new replacement vehicle similar to the one that the TOYOTA TRAINED MECHANICS stuffed up.
Hope Toyota better train its people in futue.
Next Post will be enlightnment on the what can happen to a diesel motor when off-roading, simply called 'DUSTED'. This will be a must read for all Toyoya Land Cruiser owners. Look it up in posts linked to my name Vincent Cam.
Why did I join?
Well because I have read so much s**t posted by guys who really don't know what they are talking about that I felt compelled to join and make a contribution with some basis in fact.
Over the next few days I will post some topics that will rattle some of the Stalwart Toyota Land Cruisers owners of newer models. I will tell you things that your friendly Toyota dealer wont tell you, I will surprise some Land Cruiser owners who have a mechanical background and I will receive a whole lot of flack from pompous as*****s who just like to seem important to their on-line peers. I will also receive flak from from manufacturers and sellers disguising themselves as your peer, 'off-roader'.. Let me say to them in advance, what Melania Trump told the American Press just recently....... I don't care.
First cab of the rank....
AdBlue in your diesel tank..... Not a huge mistake for someone to make especially when the AdBlue bowser is almost identical to the diesel bowser except fot the the size of the delivery hose. Its what you do about it thats important. Like do not start the vehicle and take it to your nearest Toyota Service Centre.
Real life event..... Toyota Land Cruiser LC200 VX. Oddometer reading, 20,000klms. Owner on a caravan holiday.
Serviced in Mildura (Victoria Australia) for 20,000 service. Inadvertently, put 11 lts AddBlue in diesel tank before realising what he did. Had the vehicle transported to the Bendigo Toyota dealership for them to drain the fuel tank. No further mech work was necessary as the engine had not been started.
What the Toyota trained mechanic did..
first, he connected a small suction pump hose attached to a waste tank to the diesel delivery hose adjacent the fuel pump. At this stage the suction pump had been sucking all morning. The mechanic first commenced work at 8.00am. About lunch time, when approached by the owner and asked why he, the mech, did not remove the spare wheel and drain the tank from the tank bung, the mech replied you should not be around here please go back to the admin area. We know what we are doing and you need not be concerned.
If you don't already know what AdBlue is then a very brief explanation is, courtesy if the internet. ...
AdBlue converts harmful NOx from your diesel vehicle exhaust into harmless nitrogen and steam, therefore considerably reducing the emissions of nitrogen oxides (NOx) that are a major source of atmospheric pollution.
If you don't already know the purpose of AdBlue is....
"SCR" is the name of a post-combustion technology treatment for diesel vehicles, which allows them to reduce their emissions of NOx (nitrogen oxides). SCR stands for Selective Catalytic Reduction. This technology requires the use of a reagent called AdBlue.
Most importantly, AdBlue does not blend with diesel as it is like water. Infact the largest component of AdBlue is water which is mixed with Urea. Neither will mix with diesel in the tank and due to the specific gravity of Adblue it will lie at the bottom of the diesel fuel tank while the diesel floats on top of it.
Now back to the Bendigo Toyota Dealership method of dealing with the problem. Remember, this guy is Toyota trained mechanic as the owner was constantly advised. The fuel pick up in the tank is located up from the bottom of the tank about 20mm or so. Didn't the mech know this. Didn't he know that by sucking the fuel out in the manner that was used would result in leaving a 20mm layer of AdBlue in the tank. When the owner looked up the AdBble on the internet on his phone he alerted the admin people at the service desk and was again told not to worry the mechanics were not internet trained they were Toyota trained.
About 5.00 pm the owner was given his account which was paid and he received the keys to his vehicle. He was told that he would need to drive directly accross the road from the dealership service centre to the BP fuel station and fill up with diesel as they had only put enough in to start and service the it. He was also advised to ignore the dash light showing that there was water in the fuel and to idnore the loud busser noise associated with the dash light. The owner objected but was told all will be ok and the dash light would extinguish over the next 40 to 50 klms.
The owner filled up the vehicle with diesel paid for it and drove approximately 50 metres up the road when the Toyota gave a shudder of death and stalled in the middle of Bendigo prime-time traffic.
Toyota were called and luckily the service manager had not left for the day as it was after knock of time. The service manager arranged for the same mechanic to attend at the vehicle to get the owner on his way. When the mech arrived he pumped the fuel at fuel filter and attempted to start the Land Cruiser. It wouldnt start so he unhooked a hose and pumped the filter and what seemed like water gushed out of the hose. Uhmm, water the mech muttered. The mech arranged for the car to be transported to the service centre and the owner was informed by the service manager after deliberation with the mech that I would need to leave the vehicle at the service centre all week en as they did not work on Saturdays, and it was late Friday evening.
So now the Land Cruiser sat out in the open in the dealership yard all weekend with highly corrosive Urea (AdBlue) in the fuel system. It does not take a very talented person to realise that the whole of the fuel system was going to have to be repalced including the fuel tank, fuel lines, filters and the fuel pump including all associated fittigs.
What did Bendigo Toyota do, well they kindly supplied a new replacement vehicle similar to the one that the TOYOTA TRAINED MECHANICS stuffed up.
Hope Toyota better train its people in futue.
Next Post will be enlightnment on the what can happen to a diesel motor when off-roading, simply called 'DUSTED'. This will be a must read for all Toyoya Land Cruiser owners. Look it up in posts linked to my name Vincent Cam.